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> Mordor Weapon Guide *Spoiler*, Original post by GrobbleWobble
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post Feb 7 2006, 12:29 AM
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I changed the title of the last guide from "Warrior/Paladin:" into "Warrior" and the comment on holy sword from "***: paladin only" into "***: in case you play a paladin". In other words, it is now a warrior guide that has a special weapon included for people who use the warrior guide for their paladin.

A bit dodgy, maybe. But I want to avoid a note system like:

***: only for paladins (holy sword)
****: only for warriors (eliminator)
*****: not for paladins (axes)
******: not for villains (maces and hammers)

That would clutter the guide with too many footnotes IMO.


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post Feb 7 2006, 02:41 AM
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Avoid footnotes, then. Just go with general notes: "This is the weapon chart for Warrior/Paladin/Villain etc. Paladins cannot use any of the Axes and Villains cannot use the Hammers or Maces; Elminator is Warrior-only and Holy Sword is Paladin only, but otherwise, all weapon choices apply to all guilds."

That's how I'd note it, anyway.


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post Feb 7 2006, 06:44 AM
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Maybe we should add a "p.s : elf paladin cannot wield holy sword even if they are in paladin guild."


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post Feb 10 2006, 02:47 AM
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I'm actually a fan of footnotes like that, but I suppose it would be too cluttered given you already have some in use.


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post Jul 25 2006, 03:37 PM
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Whoa, I still didn't finish the job? Ok, I am going to follow Nudibranches advice and remove all the footnotes, most of them are pretty obvious anyway.

So here are again the weapon guides:

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General notes:
Format:
    Lvl: 1st pick, 2nd pick, 3rd pick ..
Some of the weapons are non-class restricted (daggers), so they may possibly be equipped earlier than listed.
Paladins cannot use any of the Axes and Villains cannot use the Hammers or Maces; Eliminator is Warrior-only and Holy Sword is Paladin only, but otherwise, all weapon choices apply to all guilds.


Ninja:

1: steel dagger, lethe dagger, hands
11: steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron sword
17: steel dagger, lethe dagger, initiate's hands, iron sword
28: katana, thief sword, steel dagger, lethe dagger, initiate's hands, cutlass
39: katana, thief sword, wicked blade, steel dagger
44: magic hands, wicked blade, steel dagger
50: magic hands, crystal sword, wicked blade, steel dagger
67: magic hands, crystal sword, adamantite dagger
83: dominator, master's hands, adamantite sword
128: mithril dagger, master's hands, adamantite sword
139: hands of death, mithril sword, mithril dagger
167: avenger, hands of death, mithril sword
178: avenger, sabre blade, hands of death, mithril sword
195: avenger, hands of slaying, vampire fang, sabre blade
222: sword of slaying, hands of slaying, vampire fang
250: hands of destruction, sword of slaying
334: dagger of swiftness, hands of destruction, sword of slaying
417: sword of flames


Thief:

1: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, hands
5: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron dagger
24: thief sword, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron dagger
33: thief sword, wicked blade, steel dagger
57: thief sword, wicked blade, adamantite dagger
109: mithril dagger, adamantite dagger
124: shadow's blade, mithril dagger
152: shadow's blade, sabre blade
167: shadow's blade, vampire fang
238: vorpal blade, vampire fang
286: vorpal blade, dagger of swiftness, vampire fang


Mage, Sorcerer, Wizard and Healer: (levels are for Healer)

1: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, hands
6: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron dagger
12: silver cross, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron dagger
36: silver cross, steel dagger
60: cross of commanding, staff of striking, steel dagger
71: cross of commanding, staff of striking, adamantite dagger
107: cross of commanding, mithril-shod staff, adamantite dagger
178: (can use mystic shield now)
190: cross of commanding, sabre blade
208: vampire fang
238: staff of helarno, vampire fang
357: staff of destruction, dagger of swiftness, staff of helarno
446: staff of destruction, cross of requnix


Warrior, Paladin, Seeker, Scavenger and Villain: (levels are for Warrior)

1: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, bronze battle axe, hands
4: dagger of stealth, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron battle axe
9: steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron hammer
17: war hammer, steel dagger, lethe dagger, iron hammer
31: war hammer, steel mace, steel dagger
35: war hammer, steel mace, steel sword
39: crystal sword, steel mace, steel sword
44: crystal sword, staff of striking, steel mace, steel sword
65: dominator, crystal sword, adamantite mace, adamantite sword, staff of striking
78: mithril-shod staff, dominator, adamantite mace, adamantite sword
100: mithril-shod staff, mithril dagger, adamantite mace, adamantite sword
109: mithril mace, mithril sword, mithril-shod staff
131: avenger, mithril mace, mithril sword
153: avenger, holy sword, vampire fang
166: avenger, giant king's hammer, holy sword, vampire fang
174: avenger, giant king's hammer, holy sword, sword of slaying, staff of helarno
218: hammer of o'landra, giant king's hammer, holy sword, mace of disruption, sword of slaying
262: hammer of o'landra, lightning blade, giant king's hammer
327: sword of flames, hammer of o'landra, barrier battle axe, lightning blade, giant king's hammer
349: sword of flames, eliminator


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post Jul 25 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (grobblewobble @ Jul 25 2006, 11:37 AM)
Whoa, I still didn't finish the job? Ok, I am going to follow Nudibranches advice and remove all the footnotes, most of them are pretty obvious anyway.

So here are again the weapon guides:
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Be sure to copy the complete set over to the wiki.


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post Jul 25 2006, 08:08 PM
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Done.


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post Oct 24 2006, 09:17 PM
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since i don't have an avenger, dominator, giant king's hammer or anything else of that caliber, what should my lvl153 warrior use, given the choice between a mithril battle-axe and the dwarven hammer? im using the hammer, the only advantage to the battle-axe seems to be the critical hit that it gives, so the question is how important is that compared to the higher damage modifier and +1 strength of the hammer?
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post Oct 25 2006, 02:02 AM
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I would think it depends a lot on where you are adventuring....but at lvl 153, why in the world DON'T you have an avenger?? To answer your question iirc I would use the hammer over the battle-axe (is a mithril sword not an option??)...

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post Oct 25 2006, 09:24 AM
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The dwarven hammer is not a bad choice at all. It's +1 str and +6 def compensate largely for the lower damage modifier compared to an avenger.


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post Oct 25 2006, 06:11 PM
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If you're playing alone and haven't read any of the guides/spoilers, you can easily overlook some of the special items in the game. I personally didn't even know there was an Element Mage (or where it was) for the longest time. It's possible to never encounter a monster in its lair and not even realize it's there.


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post Oct 27 2006, 09:45 PM
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post Oct 27 2006, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE (Mongo @ Oct 24 2006, 10:02 PM)
I would think it depends a lot on where you are adventuring....but at lvl 153, why in the world DON'T you have an avenger??  To answer your question iirc I would use the hammer over the battle-axe (is a mithril sword not an option??)...
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well, i don't have an avenger because i haven't found one, sorry. haven't found a mithril sword either.
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post Oct 27 2006, 10:14 PM
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@loki33 - didn't mean any offense...don't know where (what levels) you are adventuring..it has been a long time since I played the mithril weapon levels, but I would think a sword will show up sometime soon if you have already found a mithril battle axe...the dwarven hammer is a good weapon though, played around with it a bit today just for kicks.


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post Oct 28 2006, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE (Mongo @ Oct 27 2006, 06:14 PM)
@loki33 - didn't mean any offense...don't know where (what levels) you are adventuring..it has been a long time since I played the mithril weapon levels, but I would think a sword will show up sometime soon if you have already found a mithril battle axe...the dwarven hammer is a good weapon though, played around with it a bit today just for kicks.
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i haven't been going around on 7 all that much, i have killed the butcher a few times (firing up the game let's see... well, only 7). i'm sure i'll find a better weapon eventually, i was just wondering what would be better to use at this point.
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post Oct 28 2006, 06:06 PM
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QUOTE (loki33 @ Oct 27 2006, 10:00 PM)
i haven't been going around on 7 all that much, i have killed the butcher a few times (firing up the game let's see... well, only 7).  i'm sure i'll find a better weapon eventually, i was just wondering what would be better to use at this point.
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soon you will have many more options sneaky.gif , but at your stage you cannot go wrong with the dwarven hammer ohmy.gifk:


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QUOTE (Mongo @ Oct 28 2006, 02:06 PM)
soon you will have many more options  sneaky.gif  , but at your stage you cannot go wrong with the dwarven hammer ohmy.gifk:
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a few more trips down to see the butcher and he dropped me an avenger smile.gif
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congrats...im sure you will find it very useful yahoo.gif


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I need help remembering a weapon.

When I first played this game 8 or 9 years ago I managed to beat it in under 200 hours (198 to be precise) thanks to 1 specific weapon I stumbled on level 15 or so. I don't remember it's name but it was a sword for my warrior that casts "Static Mesh" at a spell level of 255 making quick work of the final boss.

Currently I'm in a new game just under 70 hours into it but have fully explored the first 10 floors - just wanted to know what that weapon was and where I can get it from.
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