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post Jun 21 2008, 08:44 PM
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I'm not sure if the drain resistance of a monster has any real meaning at all. It could possibly help against companions with draining attack, but I don't really think so.

In any case, draining touch is a damage spell and I'm quite sure it is resisted by magic resistance, despite its name. Try it on the LHP if you like - she has 85% magic resistance and no drain resistance.

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post Jun 21 2008, 09:08 PM
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Yes that is correct, there is no spell that is resisted by draining... tumbleweed.gif
Npsuber, you can check in Wabbit's editor what resistance applies to what spells. Grobble is correct, Draining Touch is resisted by Magic resistance.


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post Jun 21 2008, 10:09 PM
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So does the same idea apply to Charm spells? They all list Magic as what resists them (except for the 2 of them that list none). Does that mean the monster's charm resistance doesn't mean anything either? The only monsters that can resist charms are those that resist magic?

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post Jun 21 2008, 10:43 PM
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Magic resistance works against charm spells in the same way it works against kill spells. This means that if a monster has high magic resistance, you can only charm it when it is very low on hitpoints.

"Charm resistant" is a special property. Monsters that are charm resistant can't ever be charmed.


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post Jun 22 2008, 12:06 AM
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You're all right about Drain Resistance having no effect on the Draining Touch spell. I tried Draining Touch on some Silent Eagles: they're 100% Drain Resistant and have zero Magic Resistance. Draining Touch wiped them out.

I sure would like to know what Drain Resistance does do, though. Maybe grobblewobble's suggestion that it affects companions that have the ability to drain is right... Is there some way to test? There are charmable monsters that have a Drain attack, like an Angel of Death, but if it's up against a monster that is Drain resistant, it will just use some other attack. Is there a monster that has only a Drain attack (and is charmable)?
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post Jun 22 2008, 08:22 AM
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Drain Resistance works against draining attacks. So if you bring some undead companions against Asmodeus they won't be able to drain him.
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post Jun 22 2008, 09:25 PM
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Hmm, but is there a drain attack defined for monster vs monster? I thought drain attacks were ignored? unsure.gif


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post Jun 23 2008, 06:50 AM
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*g* no idea. I never had a drainer as companion...
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post Jun 23 2008, 04:40 PM
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The suggestion to use Electric Field also takes into account the number of items that offer that spell at high levels (such as Lightning Swords). Better to use those than low-level Acidic Spray. The suggestion about Paralyzing Death & the Priestess sounds good, though.


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post Aug 10 2008, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE (Grog @ Apr 19 2006, 08:51 PM) *
I re-loaded the game last week.
Starting from scratch, no edits etc.
Just a quick note: Early in the game, when gold is at a premium, an old tip becomes relevant: you can combine identical tomes and then realign them to suit your needs, rather than realigning them one at a time. Works for potions and aards of being (aard of beings?) too, saving millions in gold.


At the risk of reviving an old topic, I think that this would be very useful information to put into the walkthrough. I just started a new game from scratch and I never knew this. This can help early parties who are strapped for cash save tons of money as they try to use tomes to build up their stats, especially if they're playing in a loaded store, where sold items will have less value.


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post Mar 27 2009, 02:06 PM
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Two remarks.

1. Somewhere in the guide it says that GKH is perhaps the most damaging weapon in the game. It is indeed the most damaging weapon. The difference with Eliminator is not so large, however.

2. I have serious doubts about thiefs benefitting the most out of all from BoM, please see here.


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post Sep 20 2009, 09:18 PM
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I wonder if someone has ever thought about using a scroll of sumsae against Asmo. If I go after him I have two of the party members cast word of death and the other two use a scroll of sumsae. This item works very well for high level characters. Usually I wipe out Asmo and his entire party of flame devils in one go.

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post Sep 21 2009, 09:19 PM
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This reminds me of the "creative kill challenge" (see here).

Smart use of a low-level item. AFAIK you are the first who ever mentioned this idea on the forum.


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post Sep 21 2009, 11:21 PM
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Er, well a Scroll of Sumsae helps do extra damage against demons, so... tongue.gif
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post Sep 23 2009, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE (grobblewobble @ Sep 21 2009, 10:19 PM) *
This reminds me of the "creative kill challenge" (see here).

Smart use of a low-level item. AFAIK you are the first who ever mentioned this idea on the forum.


Thank you for pointing this out to me. I will certainly try to beat Asmo with four scrolls of sumsae.
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