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BLauritson
Posted on: Aug 28 2020, 07:40 PM


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Greetings Kodiak,

Nice cover, I like it smile.gif Feel free to post any more Mordor music covers you upload, it'll be good to hear them.

Good luck with the party, sounds like an interesting team and I like the choice of names.

With enough of these posts for inspiration I might finally get around to building my own party back up again...
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BLauritson
Posted on: Aug 28 2020, 07:37 PM


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Fantastic! ok.gif

If ever there was a deserving Hall of Fame entry, both for that achievement and the sheer persistence involved, it would definitely be for you.
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BLauritson
Posted on: Jul 29 2020, 03:18 PM


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Nice one!

I'm pleased to hear all that effort finally came to fruition in defeating the big guy. That's a shame about the poor treasure roll but still, very impressive how much you've achieved with Aelric smile.gif
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Posted on: Jul 11 2020, 06:59 AM


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QUOTE (fischsemmel @ Jul 10 2020, 12:50 PM) *
As a litmus test for my toughness, I meleed down a full spawn of zbrats yesterday and everyone was still at like 250-350 of 450ish hits afterwards, so I'm fairly confident running into ninjas won't be instant death for anyone.


Nice one! I remember my last party (the one that died when my hard drive crashed and suffered absolute complications upon resurrection) got absolutely shredded by ZBrats despite having similar max hits on average to yours, so you're clearly managing your characters well there smile.gif

I look forward to hearing of your party's further exploits.
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Posted on: Jul 2 2020, 07:58 AM


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Nice one Roland, I really do admire your dedication to filling up the confinement.

If this forum had a hall of records similar to the one within Mordor I think you'd definitely win the "Most Monsters Charmed" award biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Jun 18 2020, 06:47 AM


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Sounds great, I'm pleased to hear you're getting on well with this so far ok.gif
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BLauritson
Posted on: Jun 4 2020, 04:16 PM


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Ooh, that is painful! laugh.gif The RNG can be incredibly cruel sometimes.

I must admit I've always had a soft spot for mages in Mordor and so it's always saddened me a little that they seem to be a bit sidelined when it comes to guilds like Sorcerer and Healer in terms of sheer spell damage potential. So yeah, I'm really hoping this idea works out as hoped biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Jun 4 2020, 06:51 AM


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Wow, I must say I really admire your persistence with this, especially in the face of such uncertainty.

It is an interesting experiment to be sure and it may actually turn out to surprise us all just how effective it is. Although I struggle to think of any examples right now I know I've seen plenty of instances in other games where seemingly unlikely party combinations can in fact be surprisingly powerful against all expectations.

Good luck with the experiment ok.gif
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Posted on: May 27 2020, 05:34 PM


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QUOTE (fischsemmel @ May 27 2020, 05:34 PM) *
I'm noticing that we really don't have a pure newbie guide around here. There's lots of tips and tricks and good suggestions in the stickies, but they're not presented in a way that a new player would be able to digest because of all the lingo and assumed knowledge. I'll try to get around to making a new player guide.


This is a good initiative and I like the start you've made on it already.

I've pinned the topic so it's up there with the rest of the guides now smile.gif
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Posted on: May 27 2020, 05:33 PM


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Nice one fischsemmel, a very comprehensive introduction there ok.gif

A topic like this deserves to be pinned methinks smile.gif
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Posted on: May 27 2020, 07:00 AM


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It's certainly a viable way to get started; the only downside is that Charm of Opening when first acquired at Nomad has a ridiculously high casting cost so it may be a few levels after before you can start casting it, depending on the character's spell point totals.

Otherwise though I'd say that's a sensible plan. Tomes do indeed drop on later levels but level 1 is the most common and safest place to find them.
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Posted on: Apr 27 2020, 07:58 AM


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QUOTE (BangleTiger @ Apr 27 2020, 06:16 AM) *
Mostly it's just for fun content to share with some friends (each of whom rolled one of the party members---with some guidance from me to help it stay balanced/easy enough for me to consistently progress with minimal legacy resources on a mostly blind run). But if people like it, I'll keep sharing here on the forums.

You've certainly got my vote ok.gif
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Posted on: Apr 26 2020, 08:35 AM


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Welcome back MythrilZenith smile.gif
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Posted on: Apr 23 2020, 07:46 AM


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Wow, I really like the back-stories you've come up with for those characters smile.gif

To be honest there's nothing wrong with allowing precursor characters to help out with legacy characters, certainly in the past a lot of members on here during the forum's busier years were quite open about it, but obviously it's all down to personal preference as to what you feel comfortable with.

Good luck with the party, I look forward to hearing of their exploits smile.gif
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Posted on: Apr 21 2020, 06:55 AM


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Welcome BangleTiger, it's great to have you join us. I can absolutely relate to that calling urge to return to Mordor many years after its initial discovery smile.gif

Depending how familiar you are with the game and the different guilds, it might be worth creating solo characters initially to get used to the guilds you're interested in, as solo characters are much easier to manage directly. As and when you're comfortable, or you've found a group you enjoy playing with, there's nothing stopping you from combining those solo chars into a party later on.

That's actually what I did when I first got myself back into Mordor a couple of years ago, played with a few solos and eventually put them together in a party once I felt more confident they could look after themselves while I got used to managing a party again. Parties can definitely advance through the depths more quickly and survive deeper than solo characters of the same level can, but by the same token solo characters will advance their guild levels more quickly (at least on a per-encounter basis, I've no idea which is more efficient time-wise biggrin.gif) so it's worth experimenting with both and seeing which you come to prefer.

And as always there are always knowledgeable people around here who can advise (I've never actually completed the game so there are definitely others more experienced than I who can share their wisdom too!).
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Posted on: Mar 28 2020, 01:35 PM


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I must admit I've not really taken the safety of this early party that seriously, since I'm just rushing through the early stage of stocking up the store and mapping out the first 2-3 dungeon levels.

Now that each of them have amassed quite a bit of gold I'm starting to identify tomes and potions properly, and keeping aside those which will be useful for my eventual legacy party. In the meantime I plan on also creating a separate healer character to perform the classic strategy of healing my main party members at the town stairs to prevent ageing.

Finally, I've decided that I will run a four-character legacy party, and that the last undecided one will be another Gnome Paladin/Mage. This is less for active spellcasting and more for the ability to charm rare monsters as and when I encounter them to make future quests a lot easier. I also can't deny my love of Kill spells, even though I know in the long run they're annoyingly less effective than the Sorcerer's myriad damaging spells.

So the intended legacy party order will now be:

1) Giant Warrior/Seeker
2) Dwarf Warrior/Healer
3) Gnome Paladin/Mage
4) Osiri Thief/Sorcerer

Basically similar setup to my eradicated party except with a narrower guild focus per character and a heavier emphasis on melee combat instead of spellcasting (I never did find my Elf to be very effective compared to the rest of the party in the 2018 setup, especially considering how much physically weaker she was). And it has the bonus that, if I know I'm about to, or likely to, face a more challenging encounter I'll still have the Dwarf and Gnome for spellcasting support.
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Posted on: Mar 26 2020, 08:49 PM


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Ah yes, you're right, it only does display them in creation order.

I think because my previous characters happened to be created in closely alphabetical order I was misremembering things and thought they were sorted alphabetically.

Well, for reasons that can only be ascribed to sheer carelessness and stupidity I've already had my first party wipe after the leader fell down the chute to level 2 and I allowed the rest of the party to follow. Two of them died from the fall and the other two died on the way back to the stairs.

The reason I describe such as down to carelessness and stupidity is I've been making no effort whatsoever to avoid the pits and other hazards that I should know more or less off by heart from DL1 and it seems there is a lot of truth to the notion that the bigger they are, the harder they fall. Those Giants do not like falling into pits. I mean, nobody does, really, but they seem to hurt especially bad when it happens. Good thing resurrections are free for inexperienced characters.

Given that I minimised all stats except for Str and Con when creating these characters, they're terribly poor at identifying items they find. As a result I've created an Elf with maximum Intelligence and Wisdom, called Sagacitus, whose sole purpose will be to assist this forerunner party in better identifying the items they find so that I can make decisions on what to keep aside as potential stat boosters and what to sell to the shop for early-game profit.

Oh well, back to the mapping and gathering smile.gif

EDIT: Turns out with 20 Int and Wis, Sagacitus is no better at identifying items than Zugru who is slightly more intelligent than the rest as a requirement to be a scavenger. Oh well, already up to around 5m combined gold from just selling everything regardless of what it is. Which is good because I got cocky and sent the party (all currently level 7 in their respective guilds) up against the Slave Master. Well, he died, but so did the party eventually. Those mashers mashed us good. 4x paid resurrections = expeeeeensive!
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Posted on: Mar 26 2020, 07:10 PM


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Thanks again for the tips Roland.

Well, while I deliberate on whether or not to include a fourth character, I've made a four-character melee party with the express intention of stocking up the store once again. So, for my Legacy Creation party, allow me to introduce:

1) Zugra the Neutral Male Giant Warrior
2) Zugri the Neutral Female Giant Warrior
3) Zugro the Neutral Male Giant Warrior
4) Zugru the Good Female Ogre Scavenger

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Honestly the main choice behind these names is to put them to the bottom of the list when I eventually create my legacy party. In the meantime though it will be interesting to see how far this group can safely delve on the basis of their natural stats and resistances; given their primary purpose is to just gather items and work towards becoming a rescue party later on down the line I won't be investing anything in their development beyond guild advancement.

As an aside I did start wondering whether having an Ogre Warrior to fill the gap in my future party might be worth consideration, but I can't help feel they would only ever amount to being a second-rate Giant just for the sake of being different. Curse me and my unnecessarily irreconcilable desires.
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Posted on: Mar 25 2020, 05:23 PM


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Thanks Roland, you make some good points there.

I wonder if perhaps to resolve the decision of what to do in terms of the last character I should just run a party of 3 instead, each one belonging to two guilds. Giant Warrior/Seeker, Dwarf Warrior/Healer, Osiri Thief/Sorcerer. It will slightly improve the experience point spread and keeps the guild memberships balanced.

It also means I have one less name to think of when creating them biggrin.gif
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Posted on: Mar 24 2020, 05:58 PM


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Greetings folks,

Following the sad demise of my 2018 party I've already started turning my thoughts towards my next party composition who will carry on their spiritual legacy.

Something I really under-appreciated in my last run was the importance of melee combat prowess in a party. I was frequently running out of spell points just trying to clear a path down to DL7 of all places at a time when I was already mapping out DL9 and DL10, and truth be told I really don't have the desire to manage real-time spellcasting in combat for more than one character when running a party. So, what to do then?

Well, first of all, I'm going to have to do a fresh install of Mordor and since I want the party to benefit from legacy items, I'm going to have to create a preliminary party to sweep the first couple of dungeon levels in order to collect tomes and potions. Knowing now that combat goes significantly faster when your selected character is the last in the party line, I'm going to create a team of four giants to this end who will simply max out on Str and Con at character generation and minimise everything else. Their purpose will be solely to create a legacy environment for the new party to hatch into, plus they'll probably make half-decent rescuers as well.

As for the party that will hopefully, for the first time ever in my life, grind their way down to meet the big boss himself, I'm looking to approach this very much as a "lead from the back" type of party that focuses mostly on melee, with only my active character responsible for spellcasting in combat.

With that in mind I'm thinking something like the following:

- Giant Warrior/Seeker
- ???
- Dwarf Warrior/Healer (backup healer for outside of combat)
- Osiri Thief/Sorcerer/Healer

I'm in two minds whether to try running a Troll Ninja for the second slot (I think Trolls can join the Ninja guild? Correct me if I'm wrong, don't have it reinstalled yet and the wiki isn't back online yet either). Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with the same? Or should I just go for another Giant or Dwarf? I like the variety of having all characters of different races, but by the same token I don't want to waste time on a character that will be ineffective in the long run.

While I ponder further the second character I shall go about actually trying to get XP installed in a virtual machine, as I'm on Windows 10 now which doesn't have the convenient Virtual XP machine that 7 had. Toodle-oo!
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Posted on: Mar 23 2020, 09:36 PM


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Hey there Grog,

There are a few recorded instances of people winning with solo characters, but it appears to be an extremely long grind compared to winning the game with a full party of four. It's definitely possible though if you have the patience and commitment for it.
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Posted on: Mar 23 2020, 09:33 PM


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Well, I'd like to say this subject line was about a heroic last stand against the big guy himself or some other such act of machismo stupidity sacrifice and bravery, but alas...

Two weeks ago my GPU developed a fault which in turn somehow set off a chain of events that prevented Windows from starting up entirely. I bought a new hard drive hoping to rescue the files I had, but long story short, apart from some critically important non-Mordor projects I'd wisely backed up the day before the fault happened, everything prior to May 2017 was lost.

Sadly, this means that the adventures of Brundath, Mythraxa, Gnumen and Nothrya have come to a permanent end, for it never occurred to me that I might need to backup the Windows XP virtual machine hard drive file along with the rest of it.

With this group I managed to delve deeper into the depths than I'd ever gone before, and reached higher levels with them than I'd ever achieved in my earlier years. As a group they were capable of brief forays down into DL10 and I think even 11 at one point, but that may have been an accident unless I'm misremembering things. Definitely reached 10 though which was a significant challenge for them at the time.

I have no plans to resurrect this group, but they shall forever live on in my Mordor memory for the great things they achieved.

Brundath the Male Neutral Giant
Mythraxa the Female Good Elf
Gnumen the Male Good Gnome
Nothrya the Female Neutral Osiri

18th December 2018 to 12th March 2020

May you all rest forever in the depths.
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Posted on: Jan 26 2020, 08:51 PM


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Congratulations! That's excellent news smile.gif

What were Gil'Thrialle's guild levels in the end?
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Posted on: Nov 11 2019, 08:03 PM


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Wow, that's great going on the confinement front there. Very impressive ok.gif
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Posted on: Oct 11 2019, 04:50 PM


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I suppose depending on which guilds you chose for each character, it wouldn't be too difficult to choose default spells that would be applicable in most situations. Then again I don't know what it's like on the lowest levels so that strategy might only work up to but not including the last 4-5 levels.

For reference, the way I operate my current party (Warrior/Seeker + 3 spellcasters) is to have Mythraxa casting electrical spells by default, with Gnumen and Nothrya casting Leprosy by default. I always have Nothrya selected and so I have a bunch of other spell types in the buffers depending on the monster types encountered (current choices are Poison, Thunderbolt, Dispel Undead and, for those rare occasions where I actually need to blast the hell out of something and deplete most of my mana in doing so, Word of Death).

Again though, perhaps in the lowest levels one needs to be much more reactive with their spell choices? Although there's also the fact that spell costs would be reduced to their minimum much quicker if the grind was focused only on a single guild so perhaps, again for short sharp runs, the biggest blasters could be set as defaults anyway.

Maybe one day I'll actually push down far enough to see for myself what DL 15 is like laugh.gif
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